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welcome to hidden truth transgender

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movement podcast what you're about to

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see is our latest episode it's an

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interview with dr. Cora Bruner she works

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at the Seattle Children's Hospital in

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the gender clinic she's also a member of

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the American Academy of pediatricians

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and a transgender expert we are doing a

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deep dive into learning what's behind

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the transgender movement this was a very

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important interview you're gonna see the

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first few minutes of it if you want to

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see the rest of the interview go check

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out the hidden truth show podcast that's

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the hidden truth show podcast available

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on Apple podcasts or wherever you listen

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to podcasts the interview started with

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me asking her about gender dysphoria and

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giving her my opinion that wouldn't you

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prefer that your child not be born with

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gender dysphoria she had a real problem

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with that question am i right that

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gender dysphoria is not something that

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you would wish upon your children well

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wish upon my children yeah

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in other words you know because I

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interview people who have struggled with

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this and struggling with gender

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dysphoria is it they wrestle with that I

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mean it's it's a difficult issue to deal

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with and therefore you know it's it's

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something you would hope that your child

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would not have to deal with because the

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there's absolutely no acceptance of it

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as okay that we can used as to who your

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gender is in our current climate so it's

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not okay that we mean well you know the

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the lack of acceptance or understanding

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is definitely a problem right and and in

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to what extent that's a problem is

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something that I think I'm fascinated to

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learn more about the research because

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you know for instance the suicide rates

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being so high in that community in

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understanding what that cause is and is

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that you know a lack of acceptance and

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and so on and is that the only

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explanation or just some of the

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explanation you know I

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want to get into that with you but I

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guess it kind of comes from a question I

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raised in my my think was my intro to

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last show which isn't talking to friends

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who you know my friends are very

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open-minded about sexual orientation and

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transgenderism and so on and you know I

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believe I am also but you know ask him

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well but if you had a child that was

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born wouldn't you prefer the child not

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be born with these things and and I've

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had something obviously their preference

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would be no I said well you're gonna

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love them regardless you're gonna love

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your child regardless but isn't it

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preferable that your child not be born

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with gender dysphoria and some people

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struggle with the answer to that to me

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it seems obvious that it's a condition

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that you know requires treatment it

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might ultimately require drugs and

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surgery

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so for me it's a no-brainer I you don't

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have any children by the way but to say

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that yes I would hope that my child not

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be born with gender dysphoria it seems

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like a no-brainer but some people

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struggle with that so what's your answer

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to that I don't I would not feel bad if

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my child had gender dysphoria at all

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I honestly feel and I think part of it

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is because to my work I call you Tim

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right of course okay in a gender clinic

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where I have the luxury of working side

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by side with people who know how to

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tackle this early and would be able to

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help and get people resources very

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quickly so I am NOT in the middle of a

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community where it wouldn't be accepted

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or something bad but even even with

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societal acceptance it's something that

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has to be dealt with because bottom line

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is you are a child feeling like you're

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in the wrong body I mean again I

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wouldn't wish that on my child if my

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child had that for sure I'm gonna give

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them all the love and and and treatment

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and acceptance or whatever that they

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require but gee I sure wish that my

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child didn't have to deal with that

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yeah but again having just been through

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cancer honestly and I'm my sister died

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I honestly let me just retrace that

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because I'm wondering my mom would have

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felt if she'd known that one of her

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daughters would have died and other

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other one had it my mom passed away in

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December I don't think we get to decide

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what is or isn't okay for our child to

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have we are shouldn't even have an

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opinion about like saying I really hope

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my kid doesn't have diabetes yeah I

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don't know I mean just to not to beat a

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dead horse because we need to move on to

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other things but it just struck me for

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people to say that I have zero

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preference whether my child is born with

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or without gender dysphoria to me

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basically what I've learned about it

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misunderstands how significant an issue

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gender dysphoria is for a child to deal

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with it and that struggle that that they

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have to go through you know through

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their whole life and then including if

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the dysphoria doesn't go away when you

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get into puberty and now you're talking

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about having to take drugs and you're

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talking about having to have surgeries

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and so on it just seems to be a

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no-brainer that you don't but that's not

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actually true Jim not everybody that has

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this has to have surgery so I think

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you're you're misguided a little bit

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that it's at all or none so if you have

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concerns about what gender you're and I

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super hate the word dysphoria because it

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implies negative that we're dis is not a

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good term but where we have to use it

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obviously but it implies it's

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something's wrong as opposed to no so

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it's just not wrong it's just what fact

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you just don't feel comfortable in this

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particular gender but that doesn't mean

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you have to have top or bottom surgery

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by any stretch I mean some people are

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perfectly comfortable not having it done

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so I think there's a and hopefully

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you'll be able to through this it's a

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podcast we're doing right yes yeah get

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people to understand it is not

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absolutely a fait accompli that you if

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you

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and have to take drugs and and I have

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this sort of negative uh it's like well

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no you're thinking a hormone to enhance

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your and to take away facial hair and

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you may or may not need surgery if

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that's not what you want that's okay -

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there's no must about any of this mm-hmm

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but but once reaching adolescence that

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definitely is one of the common

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treatments at this point is is the the

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hormones right yeah yeah huge amounts of

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consent and the consent has to be done

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by the parent check out the rest of the

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interview by going to the hidden truth

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